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NN-DMT and 5-MeO-DMT: Their Similarities and Differences.

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Rising Spirit:
High there guys & gals,

I wanted to ask you all to please describe something of the profound experiences born of imbibing the sacred "God Molecule", 5-MeO-DMT, and how it's tremendous effect has taken the willing participant way beyond what one had previously believed was possible.  What can one say about the comparisons and contrasts between 5-MeO-DMT and NN-DMT?  I understand that the visuals and sonics are each most unique to both molecules, on their own terms and have transmitted shifts in conscious-awareness which, in their own right are good medicine (so to speak).

I would offer this up, at least in partial response:


Rising Spirit:
Thanks for the link, free-range!

I find it fascinating that James attributes the states of mind/intent/focus gifted by the two DMTs to chakra activation, as this has been my experience with psychedelics, since 1977.  Perhaps the various molecules target different levels of ascension, lifting the attention to that point of conscious-awareness, whereby subject and object dissolve within the field of indivisible being?  Now, a seasoned Kundalini Yoga or Kriya Yoga practitioner, can ride the Rainbow serpent higher and higher...   beyond the limits of self, culminating in the full bloom of the Sahasrara or 7th chakra.  This has been my experience with LSD, mescaline, psilocybin and NN-DMT.  How wonderful that 5-MeO-DMT propels the psychonaut to this level instantly!!! 

My first post over at The Nexus:

Hey Rising Spirit,

Some interesting comparisons are made in this thread, not just in the opening post but further down comparing the two, I think it should be of interest.

If there is indeed something to chakras, I would definitely take the view that 5-MeO is a crown chakra medicine! My own breakthrough Bufo/5-MeO experiences very closely resemble Gopi Krishna's description of his kundalini awakening experience (but without the negative long term after effects he experienced).

There is a little overlap between 5-MeO-DMT and N,N-DMT but they are far more different than similar in experiential qualities, in my experience. A major difference is 5-MeO-DMT, at breakthrough dosage, reliably and consistently produces a non-dual experience, where there is no longer any gulf between observer and what is being observed. This state can occur through N,N-DMT but is much less common, whereas with a release dose of 5-MeO-DMT, it is pretty much a given. Rather than being a witness to what is unfolding, you are a part of the unfolding. 5-MeO much more reliably induces experiences of white light, oneness, unity and cosmic consciousness, and an experience that seems to much more resemble a near death experience in a content than a classical psychedelic experience (I view it as an atypical psychedelic). I find it very direct and consistent. N,N-DMT is much more visionary in quality and variable in content for me, often with an alien feel to it, whereas 5-MeO-DMT feels more universally cosmic. For myself, 5-MeO-DMT I find much more intoxicating, blissful and ecstatic than N,N-DMT which for me always feels clear, and serious in tone. My own subjective take is that while other psychedelics certainly produce expanded states, they also impart their own character or flavour onto the experience...5-MeO-DMT is in some way like being intoxicated on pure, unfiltered consciousness or awareness. 5-MeO-DMT is also a step above N,N-DMT in terms of raw power. 5-MeO-DMT reliably induces the classical mystical experiences described previously that Rick Strassman was expecting N,N-DMT to induce before he embarked on his research study with the latter.

Rising Spirit:
Thank you for the link, Bancopuma!

I know in my very bones that this molecule is the one that I have been searching for.  Everything elsese has led up to this stage in the game of awakening.  I am both excited and eager but also patient.  Things happen when they must.   But when that fine moment arrives...  SHAZAM!!!  8)


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