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Hi Shari,

Hopefully this video can be helpful for you: https://relationshipispsychedelic.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Returning-from-All_-Integrating-5-MeO-DMT-Experiences-in-Psychotherapy-with-Rafael-Lancelotta.mp4

Cheers,
HV

Welcome!

Hello Shari,

Thank you for sharing your experience here and asking for help.

I encourage you to continue posting and sharing here on these forums as much as is helpful to you, and I also want to offer you some resources that might be helpful to you in this process of recovery from a really big and difficult experience.

If it is helpful, I'd like to share that at one point with Ayahuasca I had a similar kind of horror trip that shook me so deeply to my core it took about a year to "recover". I spent much of that year contemplating my relationship with death, with other people, and with what I wanted to do with my life. For me, making art, doing yoga, hiking, talking with a therapist, talking with friends, and simply giving myself time were the most helpful ingredients in the healing process. When I look back on that experience, I would say that there are aspects of it that still scare me, but for the most part I am now grateful for being confronted with my deepest fears and for the time in "ordinary consciousness" to be with those fears while I'm alive.

I would agree with Rising Spirit that you took a very high dose of 5-MeO-DMT and what you're describing seems to be in line with very high dose experiences with psychedelics in general. One of the things that drove me to create this forum was to help prevent people from following the example of people like Martin Ball or Leo Gura who really push for the "Big Experience" and often miss the value in subtlety and in progressing slowly.

The good news is that the experience is over, and the overwhelming consensus of people who have had massive doses of 5-MeO-DMT is that with time they felt like they were able to come back to peace with the whole experience and with themselves.

Some resources that might be helpful to you:
https://firesideproject.org/ - This is a free hotline where you can talk to peer support people about your experience or the difficulties you're having after your experience.
https://psychedelic.support/ - This is a directory of licensed practitioners who are knowledgeable about psychedelics who can help support your process.
https://relationshipispsychedelic.com/ - An integration provider who has extensive experience with 5-MeO-DMT and has helped people integrate experiences similar to yours.

Welcome!

Welcome, we look forward to having you as part of this repository of experience and knowledge.

Welcome!

Hi Shari!

Welcome. We look forward to reading about your experiences. I will look into the posts in Korean. In the future, if you see any posts that you are concerned about, you can report them to the admin by clicking the words "Report to moderator" in the right hand corner of the post.

All the best,
HV

I had a friend who experienced this kind of pattern of use with 5meo.

She had to take a long break from it before doing it again because it was serving more as a distraction than a tool to help her do what she needed to do.

For some people, 5meo can be really pleasurable and a nice escape from the mundane. This could be similar to some people reporting that kind of use with DMT.

Thanks for sharing this powerful experience here with us.

Have you considered reaching out to a therapist to help with the integration process?

Even if that is not something you'd want to do, I hope you're able to take good care of yourself and practice grounding as much as possible and take the space you need to be present with yourself.

Wishing you all the best,
HV

Welcome to all new members!

We may not have the most frequent or timely responses, but this forum is alive and well.

It is a repository of information and knowledge that may be helpful in your exploration and in your experiences with 5-MeO-DMT. Please don't be discouraged if your intro post isn't responded to. They are all read by myself and other members, and your posts in the other sections of the forum will get responses.

Wishing you all the best and grateful that you are here with us!

This is a great question, and an important one to ask.

Thanks for bringing this here.

I think perhaps a good place to start is to check in with the practitioner themselves and give them feedback. If they are not open to feedback or unwilling to engage in a process of repair with harmed parties, the next step would be to engage with community leaders or community members who may be able to prevent further harm to others by informing members of the community of the problem. If both of these steps are unavailable, then it would be important to find a public space or forum such as social media, email lists, or otherwise to inform the public about the individuals' unethical practices.

In general, it is very difficult to call in or call out practitioners that are not necessarily part of any specific communities. I would recommend that people only work with practitioners who have community ties so that there can be call in/call out processes in the case of harm caused.

I have gone back and forth about creating a space on this forum for practitioner call ins or call outs, but I think that it is a rather intensive process requiring significant moderation and/or mediation and I haven't felt like these forums have those resources currently available to handle that sort of space.

What thoughts do you have about it?

Hello and welcome!

The change in color is likely due to some oxidation of the freebase, but probably not a significant decrease in potency.

You will probably be able to vaporize it and experience effects without any noticeable differences.

You can definitely convert this into a salt form, but that isn't necessary unless you wanted to.

406-410 F is the temp where it will completely vaporize.

As always, it is best harm reduction practice to ensure that you have the correct substance. Consider sending a sample to DrugsData.org in order to get your sample tested.

Please check out our Preparations subforum, as there is some information there about various extractions. It's always good to expand our knowledge of different plant sources and methods of extraction.

Welcome!

Welcome to the forums. Good to have you here.

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Wishing you all the best,
HV