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Introductions/Newbies / My I introduce myself
« Last post by Budstand on Today at 04:23:21 PM »
Hi five hive so glad to be here. I have experience with DMT but not five ask me anything l will be around

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5-MeO-DMT Experiences and Testimonials / Re: Ripped open by 18mg
« Last post by MrToad on December 15, 2017, 09:59:27 PM »
Hey there eternity,

It sounds to me from what you're saying that you're still pretty deep in the integration process. Taking more of the medicine doesn't sound like a good idea, as that could lead to further confusion.

Continuing to focus on finding the answers to those questions I posed would be a helpful way. Those answers can only be found within yourself, they aren't going to come from an external source or an external medicine. Before recommending it to anyone or before thinking about doing it again,


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This, of course, is my opinion and there will be many other opinions. That being said, this is what I have found to be most effective in producing healthy, functioning people that are able to live out their dreams rather than being stuck in confusion about reality.

Love and Blessings,
Humble Voyager


Really nice post.
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Introductions/Newbies / MrToad Introduction
« Last post by MrToad on December 15, 2017, 09:43:58 PM »
Hi All,


I had a toad experience summer 2017 and I can now have a lot to say about my integration.  Especially for the first few days afterwards as I had an extremely traumatic experience.  People talk about finding it hard to sleep, well I didn't sleep or eat properly for five days after the Toad.  I believe I had a serious serotonergic reaction.  I was lucky and I can imagine situations where people have long lasting brain damage or psychosis.


Perhaps by sharing my experience I hope that perhaps others will not have an experience as bad or worse than mine.


Confusingly, I did learn a lot from the experience.  Now I find myself more accepting of fear and anxiety, I can meditate and focus on the raw sensations of the biochemical reaction of fear and anxiety.


It is very tempting for my ego to believe that I did the right thing by taking the Toad because now I seem to be much better at using meditation to stop over intellectualising "negative" biochemical states.  Nevertheless it was not the Toad that did this, it was all the things I did after the Toad, e.g. I took a mindfulness course, I changed job, etc.  I guess the big question is would I have done all these things if I had not gone through that traumatic experience?  Surely if someone had just said to me "hey dude, you should try this mindfulness course and change your line of work for a while, this will solve a lot of your problems" would I have listened to them?


Anyway as you can see I'm still confused and struggling to understand what happened to me, hence wanting to talk to others.


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Introductions/Newbies / Re: Hello to the 5 Hive Family!
« Last post by HumbleVoyager on December 15, 2017, 05:13:14 PM »
Welcome to the 5 Hive!

Thank you for joining us here. We look forward to your contributions and thoughts as part of this community :)
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Introductions/Newbies / Hello to the 5 Hive Family!
« Last post by mdmadoc on December 15, 2017, 03:25:36 PM »
Greetings and love to all-

I'm excited an humbled to be here. My relationship with toad medicine began as a one-time experience several years ago. The beautiful toad entered my life again earlier this year and I have had several profound experiences and have been lucky enough to work with a beautiful and supportive facilitator. Much gratitude to all who make this space and this medicine available.
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Ethics and Ecology / Re: "Practitioners Code of Conduct"
« Last post by HumbleVoyager on December 15, 2017, 08:47:28 AM »
Thanks Teafaerie, loved Carrying the Light, well said. I have added a few more points the the list in my proposed Practitioners code in light of recent discussions and videos. There are a few ideas being mentioned on how to come up with the definitive Code. my guess it will organically evolve. How do we reach consensus of a code around the world on this? which method is best?

                               1 That they will not do anything without your prior consent.

2 That they will be attentive to our needs till we feel done.
3 That they only intervene when really nessecary or with prior agreement.
4 That someone is present that is qualified in first aid and CPR.
5 That they do not interfere unnecessarily, use rap`e, pour water in your mouth or use any electrical devices without your prior consent.
6 That adequate integration is offered or a least contacts if there is any follow up integration issues.
7 That ceremony is conducted in a private, safe and respectful setting.
8 That adequate supervision and assistance is given to ensure the safety of the initiate.
9 That if intervention is required due to stuck energy, safety issues or a life threatening situation, that perimeters are worked out first e.g. if I stop breathing for more than 30 seconds you can pour water in my mouth.
10 That the practitioner conducts a thorough medical and spiritual survey to determine the stability of the initiate.

Migaloo, this looks good except for 9. I don't think that at any point pouring water down someones mouth is a good idea while they are in that state. If an individual is not breathing, it would be best to perform first aid for that person. Pouring water in someone's mouth is akin to waterboarding.

The medical and spiritual survey items need to be thoroughly agreed upon before they are put into practice. The collection of that information should be stored in a secure manner which complies with HIPPA. (click for details on what that entails)

Access to adequate integration resources should be mandatory. This forum serves as a supportive community but it is also important that other licensed, reputable sources are also available.
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Ethics and Ecology / Re: Poor Ethical Standards Videos
« Last post by HumbleVoyager on December 15, 2017, 08:37:57 AM »
It's sad to see a lack of accountability there.
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Ethics and Ecology / Re: Are the tides starting to turn?
« Last post by HumbleVoyager on December 15, 2017, 08:30:29 AM »
There have been some discussions happening around people using plant sources that are available as an alternative. Perhaps more work in this arena will yield better results for the Toad and a better relationship between mankind and this molecule.
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Introductions/Newbies / Re: Getting in touch with a great community
« Last post by HumbleVoyager on December 15, 2017, 08:27:48 AM »
Welcome to the Hive,

We look forward to your contributions and experiences!

You can find the Experience Reports board for Synthetic here and the Experience Reports board for Toad here.

 <3 _/|\_ <3
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Science / Re: **New 5-MeO-DMT Survey Study**
« Last post by HumbleVoyager on December 15, 2017, 08:14:33 AM »
Update!
You can now see the preliminary data from this survey here: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/321832479_5-Methoxy-NN-Dimethyltryptamine_5-MeO-DMT_Patterns_of_use_motives_for_consumption_and_acute_subjective_effects

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Background/Aim: 5-Methoxy-N,N-Dimethyltryptamine (5-MeO-DMT) is the main psychoactive ingredient of bufo alvarius toad venom and is present in a variety of plants/shrubs. Anecdotal reports are that synthetic and organic preparations of 5-MeO are used for spiritual and recreational motives and may have psychotherapeutic benefit. However, there is no published evidence about the epidemiology of 5-MeO consumption, limiting understanding of the scope of use and possible harms/benefits of consumption. Therefore, we examined patterns of use, motivations for consumption, and acute subjective effects of 5-MeO-DMT among English-speaking 5-MeO-DMT users.

Method: Using internet-based advertisements, we recruited 515 respondents (Mage=35.4, SD=11.7; Male=79%; White/Caucasian=86%; United States=42%) to complete a web-based survey.

Results: Most people consumed 5-MeO-DMT infrequently (once a year or less), with the motivation of spiritual exploration, and consumed 5-MeO-DMT less than 4 times in their lifetime. Less than half of the sample (39%) reported repeated consumption in the same session, and very low rates of craving (8%), or legal (1%), medical (1%), or psychiatric (1%) problems due to 5-MeO-DMT use were reported. Most respondents (>80%) reported a variety of acute experiences (e.g., awe or awesomeness, amazement, loss of time and space, and difficulty putting experience into words) and relatively fewer (40%-66%) experienced acute challenging experiences (e.g., fear, anxiousness, felt like they were dead or dying). Furthermore, of those who reporting being diagnosed with psychiatric disorders, most reported that 5-MeO-DMT contributed to a decrease in symptoms related to post-traumatic stress disorder (79%), depression (77%), anxiety (69%), and substance use (~63%).

Conclusion: Findings suggest that 5-MeO-DMT is used infrequently, primarily for spiritual exploration, has low addiction liability, and might have psychotherapeutic effects. However, there are no published studies examining the safety of 5-MeO administration in humans. Therefore, we recommend that future research examine the safety and pharmacokinetics of 5-MeO-DMT administration in humans using rigorous experimental designs.
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