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5-MeO-DMT Experiences and Testimonials / reflections on first time
Last post by Rogierp - April 11, 2025, 04:49:44 AMHi everyone,
I would like to share a part of my first time doing 5, because that part is the most difficult to integrate. Perhaps your reflections can help me further in this.
I am a fairly experienced psychonaut and trained psychedelic facilitator. I have been fortunate enough to be guided by two very experienced mentors and my first experience was therefore a safe and indescribably beautiful experience.
After inhaling the third - full - dose I was shot into the cosmic bliss that many have already described, and yet indescribable is. I still remember the moment that I said 'goodbye' in total surrender. After that I found myself among the stars. But, and that is the part that I struggle most with in my integration, after some time there (if we pretend that time existed) it felt as if I was entrusted with an enormous secret and that was that everything that had ever been and would yet come in all universes and cosmic being would eventually come to a true and irreversible end. So an end to infinity, which at that moment was also felt in absolute terror, that everything was over in a blip. Infused with the experiencing of all the suffering of everything that had ever existed and would exist.
After that blip, in which everything was over (no hereafter, no infinity), I found myself in nothingness. And that is where I lost it. I still remember getting up and saying to my supervisors: 'guys, I'm losing it for a moment'.
And that is where they helped me enormously. They immediately surrounded me with all their love and safety and I was filled with infinite love and gratitude for being saved. But this was already in Ego-state.
I find it difficult to give the experience of 'the true end of the All' a place. The idea that after experiencing infinite love and bliss of death, there is also nothingness... that is something I can't get my head around yet. And also the experience that I was the one who got to feel this "secret". I'm curious if anyone recognizes this or has experienced something similar.
Safe travels!
I would like to share a part of my first time doing 5, because that part is the most difficult to integrate. Perhaps your reflections can help me further in this.
I am a fairly experienced psychonaut and trained psychedelic facilitator. I have been fortunate enough to be guided by two very experienced mentors and my first experience was therefore a safe and indescribably beautiful experience.
After inhaling the third - full - dose I was shot into the cosmic bliss that many have already described, and yet indescribable is. I still remember the moment that I said 'goodbye' in total surrender. After that I found myself among the stars. But, and that is the part that I struggle most with in my integration, after some time there (if we pretend that time existed) it felt as if I was entrusted with an enormous secret and that was that everything that had ever been and would yet come in all universes and cosmic being would eventually come to a true and irreversible end. So an end to infinity, which at that moment was also felt in absolute terror, that everything was over in a blip. Infused with the experiencing of all the suffering of everything that had ever existed and would exist.
After that blip, in which everything was over (no hereafter, no infinity), I found myself in nothingness. And that is where I lost it. I still remember getting up and saying to my supervisors: 'guys, I'm losing it for a moment'.
And that is where they helped me enormously. They immediately surrounded me with all their love and safety and I was filled with infinite love and gratitude for being saved. But this was already in Ego-state.
I find it difficult to give the experience of 'the true end of the All' a place. The idea that after experiencing infinite love and bliss of death, there is also nothingness... that is something I can't get my head around yet. And also the experience that I was the one who got to feel this "secret". I'm curious if anyone recognizes this or has experienced something similar.
Safe travels!
#2
Introductions/Newbies / Hi from The Netherlands
Last post by Rogierp - April 11, 2025, 03:24:51 AMHi all,
Great to be here. I'm a psychotherapist from The Netherlands, trained by IPI and ETI in facilitating psychedelics, with extended experience in classic psychedelics. Though new to 5, after my first trip just weeks ago. Life changing and processing/integrating now. Hoping this forum will add to that!
Great to be here. I'm a psychotherapist from The Netherlands, trained by IPI and ETI in facilitating psychedelics, with extended experience in classic psychedelics. Though new to 5, after my first trip just weeks ago. Life changing and processing/integrating now. Hoping this forum will add to that!
#3
Ethics and Ecology / Re: Dr Gerry - accusations
Last post by Brother Goose - March 31, 2025, 08:05:17 AMThe bufo practitioner community are full of quacks and abusers and thieves. Always do tons of research and speak with any potential practioner for a very extended period before going for a treatment with them.
#4
Ethics and Ecology / Re: Calling out / Calling in
Last post by Brother Goose - March 31, 2025, 07:56:20 AMJust post about it online. Probably best bet is youtube or other main social media sites like that. Also mention it on forums like this one.
#5
5-MeO-DMT-like States Induced Without Exogenous Catalyst / Re: dark room recipe
Last post by Brother Goose - March 30, 2025, 08:03:21 AMDownloaded. Not sure if I will read it any time soon, but thanks anyway OP!
#6
Plant-Based 5-MeO-DMT Experiences and Testimonials / Re: Yopo
Last post by Brother Goose - March 28, 2025, 09:13:07 AMQuote from: RoundAbout on July 25, 2019, 11:19:06 AMQuote from: uncletedly on June 17, 2019, 06:13:51 PMLittle has been written about yopo and the best yopo is rarely available.There's a decent summary in Anadenanthera: Visionary Plant of Ancient South America. The full text is available here: https://the-eye.eu/public/concen.org/Entheogens%20Psychedelic%20Shamanism%20LSD%20DMT%20Psilocybin%20Cannabis/FILES/DMT%20Anadenanthera%20Visionary%20Plant%20of%20Ancient%20South%20America%20by%20Torres%20Repke.pdf
It appears all analyses indicate bufotenine as the only concentrated alkaloid in seeds. Some indicate a higher weight % of DMT or 5-MeO-DMT in low quantities, but I don't think that is relevant... these are seed preparations not extracts after all.
It would be interesting to have your material analyzed.
Link no longer appears to be working, would be interested to see the material that was in it. Any updates on a working link?
#7
5-MeO-DMT Experiences and Testimonials / Re: 5Meo vape pen
Last post by Brother Goose - March 27, 2025, 03:10:39 PMVapes of 5 always worry me cause you never know the exact dose, that is why I never use them.
#8
Spirituality / Re: Medicine & Mysticism
Last post by Brother Goose - March 27, 2025, 03:01:16 PM5Meo and other plant medicines are the best for remembrance or recollection, by way of direct conscious experience of the Divine.
You separate the earth from the fire, the subtle from the gross, gently with great industry.
It climbs from the earth and descends from the sky, and receives the force of things superior and things inferior.
You will have by this way, the glory of the world and all obscurity will flee from you.
It is the power strong with all power, for it will defeat every subtle thing and penetrate every solid thing
In this way the world was created.
From it are born wonderful adaptations, of which the way here is given.
You separate the earth from the fire, the subtle from the gross, gently with great industry.
It climbs from the earth and descends from the sky, and receives the force of things superior and things inferior.
You will have by this way, the glory of the world and all obscurity will flee from you.
It is the power strong with all power, for it will defeat every subtle thing and penetrate every solid thing
In this way the world was created.
From it are born wonderful adaptations, of which the way here is given.
#9
Preparation and Integration / Re: Since my 5 experience, I d...
Last post by Brother Goose - March 27, 2025, 02:57:40 PMIntegration is a huge key to healing. 5Meo and other psychedelics have been a key catalyst to extremely changing my lifestyle the past 3 years, and my experience is somewhat similar to yours regarding desiring "substances" much less, or not at all.
#10
General Discussion / Re: Whiteout Experiences From ...
Last post by Brother Goose - March 27, 2025, 02:55:09 PMGod bless Rising Spirit
Have not done any psychedelics whatsoever in a long time now (well over 6 months) because I have been integrating a ton of mescaline, ibogaine, 5meo, psilocybin, and lsd, ketamine, and nitrous oxide experiences over the past few years.
Integration is the absolute key to psychedelic healing
Have not done any psychedelics whatsoever in a long time now (well over 6 months) because I have been integrating a ton of mescaline, ibogaine, 5meo, psilocybin, and lsd, ketamine, and nitrous oxide experiences over the past few years.
Integration is the absolute key to psychedelic healing