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Title: Advice on precise measurements of 5-MeO-DMT dosages using weighed mg. scoops
Post by: Bancopuma on May 23, 2017, 04:17:37 AM
Hi y'all,

I used a high precision scale I have access to in the research labs where I work (a METTLER AE 50 analytical balance) which is sensitive to 0.0001g to weigh out doses from two different sized milligram measuring scoops (3mg and 10-12mg sizes of TCC and VantageCC brands, respectively; linked below), of both 5-MeO-DMT hcl and 5-MeO-DMT freebase powder. These scoops are cheap and easily obtained, and I thought this may be useful for the 5-MeO community who may not have access to highly sensitive (and highly expensive) scales for weighing, in the interests of accurate dosing and minimising potential risk or uncertainty.

12 level scoops (without any tamping down) were weighed of each. It would be wise to ensure the material is finely powdered to ensure even and consistent weighing.

3mg micro measuring scoop:

UK:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121819788520?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121819788520?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

USA:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3mg-Micro-scoop-x-10-measuring-spoon-for-supplements-nootropics-mini-measure-/121819788520?hash=item1c5d0674e8:g:DIgAAOSwcdBWTu1a (http://www.ebay.com/itm/3mg-Micro-scoop-x-10-measuring-spoon-for-supplements-nootropics-mini-measure-/121819788520?hash=item1c5d0674e8:g:DIgAAOSwcdBWTu1a)


10-12mg micro measuring scoop:


UK:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5x-10mg-12mg-Micro-Scoops-Red-Nootropics-Supplements-Microscoops-Noopept/301625270030?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D2220072%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D44293%26meid%3D66dda0e2ae774b5090a3596a99f7f11e%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D121537730373 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5x-10mg-12mg-Micro-Scoops-Red-Nootropics-Supplements-Microscoops-Noopept/301625270030?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D2220072%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D44293%26meid%3D66dda0e2ae774b5090a3596a99f7f11e%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D121537730373)

USA:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/5x-10mg-12mg-Micro-Scoops-Red-Nootropics-Supplements-Microscoops-Noopept/301625270030?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D2220072%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D40130%26meid%3D2ec86223eafd4e5190c5aea8779d6400%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D291457949887 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/5x-10mg-12mg-Micro-Scoops-Red-Nootropics-Supplements-Microscoops-Noopept/301625270030?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D2220072%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D40130%26meid%3D2ec86223eafd4e5190c5aea8779d6400%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D291457949887)

5-MeO-DMT hcl - 10-12mg scoop:

6.5mg, 6.5mg, 7.2mg, 6.4mg, 6.5mg, 7.0mg, 7.0mg, 7.0mg, 7.0mg, 6.8mg, 7.2mg, 6.9mg.

Mean: 6.8mg. Median: 7.0mg. Mode: 7.0mg. Range: 0.8mg.

5-MeO-DMT hcl - 3mg scoop:

1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.5mg, 1.8mg, 1.4mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.6mg, 1.3mg, 1.4mg, 1.5mg, 1.7mg.

Mean: 1.5mg. Median: 1.5mg. Mode: 1.5mg. Range: 0.5mg.

5-MeO-DMT freebase - 3mg scoop:

1.8mg, 1.6mg, 1.8mg, 1.9mg, 1.9mg, 1.5mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.5mg, 1.6mg, 1.7mg, 1.4mg.

Mean: 1.6mg. Median: 1.6mg. Mode: 1.5mg. Range: 0.5mg.

It can be seen that with both milligram measuring scoops, there is not a great deal of variation in weights when measuring level scoops of 5-MeO-DMT. The 10-12mg scoop has an average weight of 6.8mg of 5-MeO-DMT hcl per level scoop, with a total range of 0.8mg. The 3mg scoop is more accurate still, and has an average weight of 1.5mg of 5-MeO-DMT hcl and 1.6mg 5-MeO-DMT freebase per level scoop, with a total range of 0.5mg for both. Slightly more variation can be observed for the larger measuring scoop (and for 5-MeO at least, the 3mg and 10-12mg scoop size approximations certainly do not apply), however the larger scoop still provides fairly accurate weighing of doses. There was insufficient 5-MeO-DMT freebase to measure doses with the larger measuring scoop.

In conclusion, these milligram measuring scoops, particularly the smaller 3mg scoop have been found to measure out 5-MeO-DMT dosages with a reasonably high degree of accuracy and precision (even when considering 5-MeO-DMT's profound potency), and so may be a useful bit of kit for 5-MeO-DMT users for the purpose of safe and reliable dosing.
Title: Re: Advice on precise measurements of 5-MeO-DMT dosages using weighed mg. scoops
Post by: Acasta Gneiss on June 28, 2017, 06:57:31 PM
Thanks for this. Some may harp on the need for accurate dosing, which I understand, but a 1mg variation isn't going to kill anyone (not speaking for egos however). This is useful. Any chance of performing the same experiment with n,n DMT?
Title: Re: Advice on precise measurements of 5-MeO-DMT dosages using weighed mg. scoops
Post by: Bancopuma on July 10, 2017, 07:37:14 AM
No worries, I figured this could be helpful to people. Using the smaller "3mg" scoop, I noted only a 0.5mg variation in weights for both 5-MeO-DMT freebase and 5-MeO-DMT hcl. Personally, I would be comfortable with a 0.5mg variation. Slightly more variation of 0.8mg was noted for the larger "10-12mg" scoop, but the smaller "3mg" scoop in particular seems to me to be a worthy addition to any 5-MeOnauts medicine bag.

That's a good idea regarding the N,N-DMT, accurate dosing with it is still important obviously but not as critical as for 5-MeO-DMT, so I think the larger "10-12mg" scoop would be more useful in its case. I will repeat this when I have some N,N-DMT to hand.
Title: Re: Advice on precise measurements of 5-MeO-DMT dosages using weighed mg. scoops
Post by: PharGone on April 16, 2021, 05:46:43 PM
Would love to purchase these but links are old now. Are these standard sizes?