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Thank you!

Have you had a chance to interphase with the molecule since your 12th experience related on this forum?

Not my own trip report, but one of my favourites that I really felt like sharing.

From Erowid, posted by Teafærie on November 6th, 2007.

https://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=35237

I belong to a psychedelics club that ideally meets on the last Saturday of every month to try out some sort of novel combination or explore old favorites as a group. Over the years (at least the last three) we have developed the pleasant habit of doing 5-MeO-DMT pop-ups together at the end of our psychedelic sessions and I want to share my experience because I think that it is something more people might enjoy integrating into their practice.

No accurate dosage has been recorded as it is our scientifically dubious habit to keep a perpetually loaded crackpipe around the house, adding more material now and again whenever it doesn't seem to be hitting very well anymore. When it gets to be that time (typically dawnish) we all gather around someplace soft an cozy for DMTeatime. It seems to work best when everyone is almost entirely down from whatever it was that took us but we're still feeling slightly expanded and open. Sometimes we roll a joint and lace it with about a matchhead's worth of 5-MeO-DMT, other times we just break out the little glass vaporizer and pass it around. Each person takes one hit. Depending on the whim of the moment and the desired effect this can be a ceremonial puff or a big old long lung filling toke, with the general tendency falling somewhere in between.

When we do 5-MeO-DMT with intention for realsies we are always silent until the Experient re-emerges, but this method does not produce the full-fledged experience and we often continue to joke and chat in a mellow and low key way while all of this is going on. Occasionally the person who has just passed the pipe will lean back for a minute or two in a warm fog of psychedelic rapture, but for the most part we remain aware of our surroundings and are able to see and hear, cuddle, sip tea and participate in what passes for witty banter at five in the morning on drugs. The 5-MeO-DMT seems somehow to wrap up our individual and collective trips for the night, summing them up in a gestalt or a series of gestalts. It also ties all of our club meetings together, as 5-MeO-DMT space is somewhat atemporal at least for me, and I can feel myself and my friends every time that we have done 5-MeO-DMT together in the past and -tantalizing but hard to grasp at- when we will do it again in the future. It also serves to synergize group energy, especially when we manage to pass the pipe fast enough that we're all experiencing some part of the rush at the same time. I encourage anyone who is interested in group telepathy research to look into this effect.

We have tried this so far with mushrooms, MDMA, LSD, ayahauscha, mescaline, 5-MeO-DiPT, 2C-I, AMT and a few other more obscure drugs and combinations of drugs. Be cautious if you might still be tripping harder than you think, as this can bring whatever you're on right back up if it's not really settled all the way down. (mostly a feature, occasionally a bug) I love to combine 5-MeO-DMT with MDMA because the ecstasy gets rid of the background anxiety that is always present when I contemplate another visit to he Great and Only - however it should be remembered that E can make 5-MeO-DMT stronger and longer as well as more telepathic. This is true even at the pop-up level. Try a tiny taster puff and see where it gets you, then work your way up to more. After about half an hour it sort of stops working which is probably for the best. I myself am a total Mystery whore and I would keep on going right back there as long as there was something in the pipe if it were otherwise.

The Last Saturdays Club is a fine institution and one that we would like to see spread. There is a comforting sense of solidarity in the idea that there are other little groups out there exploring the Mystery and I believe that the collective un-sub-super conscious/resonance field/noosphere is brightened up for everybody when a bunch of smart cool people are tripping at the same time and we can all pull a little bit more bandwidth when we work together. I hereby declare the last Saturday of every month International Let's All Take Some Psychedelics And Try To Figure This Thing Out Day. Start up your own chapter right away and we'll meet you in Hyperspace!

P.S. I have seen the same thing done with NN DMT. Some kids in the back of the Teahouse at the [gathering name deleted] were doing up what they called 'deemsters' at the end of a trip. I was coming down from mushrooms and E and I intentionally underdosed so I can't really speak for it. Apparently it's a thing amongst [deleted] gutterpunks. Some said that it's a good way to ease into NN if you're afraid to try it at full strength. I agree, but I would start with tasters when I was sober if I'd never been there before.

ripples,

the Teafærie

I would like two voice two thoughts:

I've more commonly seen the phrase "whiteout experience" be used for non-experiences, which is what many novices (myself included) report: I inhaled, then 15 minutes later returned to my body with no memory of anything having happened, asking my facilitator if I had truly been gone (which she affirmed). What you describe I more commonly see labeled as a "breakthrough experience", where the experience may entail all-whiteness, but at least there is still... experience.

Secondly, your beautiful poetry about these experiences inspired me to title a musical piece of mine "Vortexial Fulcrum". It may be heard here (and is a continuation of the preceding piece, "Feedback Healing").

Namaste

I am a member of the Church (now called the Church of the Sacred Synthesis), and used an ounce of sacrament over the course of a month or two before I had my first inhaled 5-MeO-DMT experience.

While I agree that it is a shame that the science is at best inconclusive so far, and that they were too enthusiastic to claim that their sacrament was psilomethoxin, experientially I can understand their enthusiasm and sincere belief.

The experience induced by sacrament IMO is markedly different from psilocybin; less visual, for starters. And unlike psilocybin, church sacrament builds up NO tolerance, regardless of frequency of use or dosage.

In my opinion, while sacrament may not be psilomethoxin, experientially it clearly is not identical to (only) psilocybin, even to someone who is relatively immune to placebo and had no previous experience with inhaled 5-MeO-DMT.

Peace and love

Can someone please help me how to get over this phase or of this is normal  with everyone? Insomnia depression anxiety which is now keeping me on medication.

Hi. Unfortunately, I haven't had a chance to take 5-MeO-DMT myself yet, so I cannot speak about the after-effects, either, but I wanted to reach out to you since no on else has, yet.


Maybe this thread could be helpful for you: https://forums.5meodmt.org/index.php?topic=50963.0


I hope you feel better soon.


Love

I still haven't come across this molecule, but I've come across some amazing liberation teachings that I'd like to share here. This is my clumsy summary of the teachings as passed on by Roger Castillo, student of Ramesh Balsekar, student of Nisargadatta. This is Roger's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3nxl1CdbbysJB_KUBaLEfw/videos

What we truly seek is happiness.
Happiness is what's there when suffering is absent.
Happiness is unbroken peace of mind regardless of circumstance.
The flow of Life is always pleasure or pain.
Suffering is our psychological attitude towards the flow of Life.
Suffering manifests as 1. guilt, 2. blame, 3. pride, 4. worries & anxiety, 5. expectations & attachment to outcomes.
The root of all suffering is our false belief in personal doership.
When we examine how decisions are made in Life, we find that, without exception, they come about based on our genetic make-up & conditioning through Life.
The feeling of free will is both an illusion and a gift.
The experience of being alive as a human is designed to feel as if we are free to do whatever we choose in each moment.
Our own free will is never different from the will of Life.
When we deeply understand/feel that Life unfolds according to destiny, our attitude of doership & attachment falls away and peace of mind persists.

This is (in Roger's words - feel free to discuss, of course) the essence of all spiritual teaching, and what peak experiences (such as 5-MeO-DMT trips) point towards. If you guys find this interesting, I recommend checking out his videos or asking me to elaborate on any of these points. I've been soaking it up for about a year now (Still not free of suffering myself, though)

Great report. Thank you.

Rising Spirit, thank you for your beautiful accounts. I really hope 5-MeO crosses my path soon.

psychedelicstoday.com as a guest if you are up for it (anonymous of course).

I just mistyped that into my browser as psychedelics.today.com. Incredibly, that mistyped version referred me to https://www.nbcnews.com/ lol

Hey, hive.

I'm a 26-year-old non-binary hippie from Germany. I moved to Pasadena, USA in January to get married to my long-distance girlfriend of five years. I make weird music that you can check out here: http://maharajah.bandcamp.com/

I've done psilocin mushrooms and LSD, about ten trips altogether. I found out about 5-MeO-DMT about two days ago and been soaking up information about it ever since, mainly on Youtube. Naturally, colour me very curious. Hope to find some insights on this forum.

Peace and love always