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Experience Reports => 5-MeO-DMT Experiences and Testimonials => Topic started by: nottwo on August 21, 2017, 09:36:02 AM

Title: Plugging - first time ever
Post by: nottwo on August 21, 2017, 09:36:02 AM
I should point out first that the following experience occurred in a country where the consumption of 5-meo is legal. I have tried not to wax lyrical about the deeper meaning of the experience, just give the details of what happened in a more or less scientific manner.

I had never really considered this as a ROA but I had a bad cold and sore throat and I didn't fancy vaping anything which might make my throat more uncomfortable. I measured out 5 mg of 5-meo using an accurate milligram scale and added 1 ml of warm water from a syringe and stirred. Once it was dissolved, I sucked the resultant solution back into the syringe. I lay on the bed face down, administered it and lay in that position for about two minutes. There was almost no effect at that point and I generally expected that there it would be none (especially after reading a report on here of someone plugging much, much larger doses with no effect).

I waited another 2 minutes and started to feel the unmistakable onset of a 5-meo experience. However the onset was much gentler than when vaped, just a gradual easing into it. Over the next 2 minutes the experience came on considerably stronger. At that point I would compare the overall effect as similar to when I have vaped 10-11 mg. The relatively slow build up, I felt, gave me more time to surrender to what was happening and reassure myself that the place I was entering was wholly natural and not to be fought in any way.

I have no idea about the following minutes but for the whiteness and singularity of the experience, a true knowing of what is. As I came out of it I opened my eyes and saw a small spider making its way across the ceiling. I felt the return of some of the physical and mental discomfort I had had before taking the substance. With sweeping hand gestures I tried to free my head and body of these. Another 2 minutes later and I was pretty back to normal. I saw from the clock that the whiteout part of the experience had lasted around 12 minutes, maybe a little less. I lay there for another few minutes and then had no problem getting up and carrying out a few basic tasks.

I will really consider this ROA as a possibility in the future. The slow onset does give some possible advantages over the incredibly fast onset that's usual with vaping. There was a nice handover from intellectual, ego based concern to surrender to ego loss that sort of gets bypassed when the transition happens in just 15 or 20 seconds.
Title: Re: Plugging - first time ever
Post by: Handshake on August 26, 2017, 07:57:18 PM
Great account!

Plugging seems the most similar to intramuscular (IM) administration, which I find to be the best ROA out of all that I have tried for the simple fact that it allows for a longer time to get into the space and a longer time to drift back down. Plugging would be better than IM admin except that it's kinda hard to convince people to put powerful psychedelics up their rectum. They tend to be a little more open to a quick injection.
Title: Re: Plugging - first time ever
Post by: nottwo on August 28, 2017, 07:41:50 AM
I've been doing a mini survey of people who have tried 5-meo or are thinking trying to see their reaction to this ROA. To my surprise, most say they think it a little odd although in the correct setting, and self administered, they would be happy to do it.

It seems to have the following advantages:

it doesn't depend on someone's technique when it comes to handling a vaporizer, nor their ability to hold their breath the correct amount of time
it seems to be almost twice as strong by this ROA (I've yet to fully verify this)
it is a slower and decidedly more controllable entry
it can be done with great accuracy as you can dissolve 50 mg in 5 ml of water then just use the precise amount from a 1 ml syringe
(1 ml = 10 mg, potentially equivalent to 20 mg vaped)
Title: Re: Plugging - first time ever
Post by: Handshake on September 30, 2017, 11:03:53 AM
Quote from: nottwo on August 28, 2017, 07:41:50 AM
I've been doing a mini survey of people who have tried 5-meo or are thinking trying to see their reaction to this ROA. To my surprise, most say they think it a little odd although in the correct setting, and self administered, they would be happy to do it.

It seems to have the following advantages:

it doesn't depend on someone's technique when it comes to handling a vaporizer, nor their ability to hold their breath the correct amount of time
it seems to be almost twice as strong by this ROA (I've yet to fully verify this)
it is a slower and decidedly more controllable entry
it can be done with great accuracy as you can dissolve 50 mg in 5 ml of water then just use the precise amount from a 1 ml syringe
(1 ml = 10 mg, potentially equivalent to 20 mg vaped)

There are definite advantages to plugging, though almost all of the advantages can be applied to IM administration. Rectal administration of anything is a very intimate thing, so there is a little more issue with sanitation, need for the bowels to be cleared, and vulnerability of someone putting something up the bum. Potency changes are also applicable to IM administration.

For psychonautic use, plugging seems like a great option. For clinical, therapeutic use, plugging would not be good due to boundary violations and potential physical complications.
Title: Re: Plugging - first time ever
Post by: Omnislug on February 01, 2019, 12:47:03 PM
I've tried plugging with other substances in the past and have also found that it seems the effects are greater than other methods of ingestion with the same amount. After a few times of trying this the "taboo" part of putting something up your rear end kinda just disappears, I imagine one could Do this with Ayahuasca and that would forgo the horrible taste alone, which might significantly alter the experience. I don't mind intense bitterness but know many have a pretty hard time with it. I would like to have mu next 5meo experience like this considering your description of the onset, though I doubt it would work unless one had hcl salt of the substance. 
Title: Re: Plugging - first time ever
Post by: shakyradical on March 27, 2023, 04:59:53 PM
@not two,


any updates on playing with this ROA?