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Introductions/Newbies / Greetings
« Last post by aracid on September 23, 2022, 09:08:47 PM »

Hello everyone

I live in Vancouver and have been exploring medicine for many years.
I've recently had my first 5meo ceremony and I'd like to learn more about it and hope that this forum and the people I meet will be open to sharing insight as I explore this beautiful medicine.

much love

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Introductions/Newbies / Hello People
« Last post by SenseOrgan on September 18, 2022, 09:45:39 AM »
Hello people, thank you for being here!

I'm looking to learn from those who have gone before me, since I'm about to take the deep dive with 5. Treatment resistant trauma led me to psychedelics, and ultimately to non-duality and 5-MeO-DMT. That's the ultra short version of how I ended up here. I'm looking forward to meet you.
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5-MeO-DMT Experiences and Testimonials / Re: Surprising effect
« Last post by Rising Spirit on September 11, 2022, 07:40:22 PM »

I share this experience to say that it is possible to go very far with 5 meo dmt.  I believe that it is an experience made for people who want to go to the de las of what we can propose currently, I believe that people who lose consciousness at high doses do not have the strength to manage psychically or physically the experience. There is a clash between the conscious and the unconscious that takes place, even if I prepared myself mentally to die for a long time, living it was still an ordeal, you have to know that I already lived a near death experience in my childhood and that it is for this reason that I wanted to consume 5 meo dmt to understand what I lived in the past.

I do agree to an extent but I honestly do feel that no mortal person is strong enough to keep their own personal existential paradigmn wholly intact through such an encounter with the sheer oblivion unleashed by 5-MeO-DMT.  That said, just prior to the whiteout interphase and post eclipsing, lifetimes of understanding can flood into one's being.  At the appex, subjectivity is impossible, as entering the undifferentiated field strips us of our ordinary human compass, for a seemingly brief spell.  Decades of meditation, concentration, contemplation, quantum theorizing, philosophising, breathwork and/or sensory deprivation, do greatly aid the voyager to a highly tangible degree but NOTHING can quite prepare us for this immense self-erasure (ego death). 

That said, those who have learned to surrender to the insubstantial force which our entire universe is created by, sustained by and eventually will be destroyed by or rather, reabsorbed by said force...  do indeed have a peculiar receptivity to containing the details and impressions that occur during journeys with this most sacred of medicines.  As you have clearly experienced, meeting God directly is more than a subject/object interplay.  The fusion literally devours our subjectivity.  The nondual eclipsing is so amazing I am at a loss with words to describe.  Besides, our limited human dialect can only effectively convey so much, eh?   _/|\_ _/|\_

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To live the imminent death in this way is really an incredible experience, the time was at the same time all and nothing, it is difficult for me to explain with words, I saw myself in a cosmic whole, I saw my place in the universe, that removed an enormous weight from me, the experience really helped me to free myself from a fear, that to die. Before, I was just struggling. That's all I can say about the phenomena I experienced.

I was in a state of shock, like a second birth but awake, brutal, unexpected and calculated, it is as if the destiny had imposed me to live this, I had a realization on the nature of myself. The place that I chose was very important to support me during this moment, I believe that deep inside I was prepared to live this since always, I feel really well, better than well, I realized that I had the power to manage this, I believe that the most important is not finished, after 12 hours I still feel the effects. 

Bravo!  On each of my twelve journeys with 5-MeO-DMT, I consciously dissolved, enigmatically into a vast vortexial fulcrum which completely erased my fragile personal framework, my accustomed mortal reference points, entirely!  Not at all comatose but vibrating at an incredibly high frequency.  The brainwave state this human vessel produced was most likely within the Lambda wave frequency (or so I humbly suggest).  I believe that in Zen, this is what is pointed towards by the descriptive, No Mind.  Human thought lifted into a trance state, washed away incrementally, but still enigmattically pulsing in rythem with it's own primordial epicenter...   Samadhi. This is the spiritual summit generations of mystics, magicians, theologians, monks and ascetics fervently seek in earnest, world over.  It's a most sacred gift that the Source shares with the psychonautically inclined amongst us.

 Now the old Buddhist notion of a vast luminous emptiness seems quite relevant.  I have always been drawn to the word Sunyata to point towards such a limitless, blinding spiritual effulgence, whose quintessence exists beyond all substantiality.  I like that.  I also vibe with the notion of the Eternal Tao.  Yet, said force which seems inherent within everything...  is no-thing at all.  Not a thing but the source of all things?  It may well be the cause of all that is?  Whatever the whiteout experience gifts is relative to the individual but at the peak, an undifferentiated vacuum dissolves away the lines of any and all separation.    "The clear light of the void".

Godspeed my intrepid friend.  I likewise feel a focused need to ground-out the epiphany, find buoyancy and healing.  Thanx so much for sharing your profound experience!   <3




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Introductions/Newbies / Re: Hi everyone
« Last post by Rising Spirit on September 10, 2022, 06:11:20 AM »
Greetings and welcome to this fine collective.  If you do Zazen, then you have an advantage journeying with 5-MeO.  I'm sure you'll experience, as do I, a greater understanding of the incomprehensible, bright Void.  Please share your impressions of this sacred medicine in the trip report section.  Namaskar!   _/|\_ _/|\_ 
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Introductions/Newbies / Hi everyone
« Last post by MiradaPenetrante on September 08, 2022, 05:46:01 AM »
Hi
I do Zen meditation and experimental with 5-meo-dmt from Spain


Thank you by contribute to conection and knowledge
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5-MeO-DMT Experiences and Testimonials / Re: Surprising effect
« Last post by openhead555 on August 27, 2022, 02:23:29 PM »
I am still alive. Yes the change is still there, it's subtle. I'm thinking of doing it again but not as strong, like half as strong. I had to do several acupuncture sessions to rebalance my energy, it was too powerful for the body but I managed to keep my mind under control. I really advise to think before doing something so crazy. I think in retrospect I just discovered something
that now I will seriously look into and be careful not to overdo it. It's definitely worth paying attention to the dosage and the space between strokes. If I had done it again even a month later this experience im 30mg, I don't know if I would have lasted.
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Introductions/Newbies / Re: Hello from Alaska
« Last post by HumbleVoyager on August 19, 2022, 01:49:38 PM »
Welcome!
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5-MeO-DMT Experiences and Testimonials / Re: horror trip
« Last post by HumbleVoyager on August 19, 2022, 01:47:16 PM »
Hello Shari,

Thank you for sharing your experience here and asking for help.

I encourage you to continue posting and sharing here on these forums as much as is helpful to you, and I also want to offer you some resources that might be helpful to you in this process of recovery from a really big and difficult experience.

If it is helpful, I'd like to share that at one point with Ayahuasca I had a similar kind of horror trip that shook me so deeply to my core it took about a year to "recover". I spent much of that year contemplating my relationship with death, with other people, and with what I wanted to do with my life. For me, making art, doing yoga, hiking, talking with a therapist, talking with friends, and simply giving myself time were the most helpful ingredients in the healing process. When I look back on that experience, I would say that there are aspects of it that still scare me, but for the most part I am now grateful for being confronted with my deepest fears and for the time in "ordinary consciousness" to be with those fears while I'm alive.

I would agree with Rising Spirit that you took a very high dose of 5-MeO-DMT and what you're describing seems to be in line with very high dose experiences with psychedelics in general. One of the things that drove me to create this forum was to help prevent people from following the example of people like Martin Ball or Leo Gura who really push for the "Big Experience" and often miss the value in subtlety and in progressing slowly.

The good news is that the experience is over, and the overwhelming consensus of people who have had massive doses of 5-MeO-DMT is that with time they felt like they were able to come back to peace with the whole experience and with themselves.

Some resources that might be helpful to you:
https://firesideproject.org/ - This is a free hotline where you can talk to peer support people about your experience or the difficulties you're having after your experience.
https://psychedelic.support/ - This is a directory of licensed practitioners who are knowledgeable about psychedelics who can help support your process.
https://relationshipispsychedelic.com/ - An integration provider who has extensive experience with 5-MeO-DMT and has helped people integrate experiences similar to yours.
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Introductions/Newbies / Re: Hello and Thank You
« Last post by HumbleVoyager on August 19, 2022, 01:30:00 PM »
Welcome!
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