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Introductions/Newbies / Nonduality
« Last post by Stu on November 24, 2017, 05:08:06 PM »
Sharing information and experiance is enriching the world.
Lokking forwrd to adding my 2 cents worth to this community pool.
Introductions/Newbies / Re: Ending the lurk...
« Last post by HumbleVoyager on November 24, 2017, 03:39:27 PM »
Thanks for joining! We look forward to your thoughts and contributions here at the 5 Hive.
Articles / Re: Choosing a good Sitter/Practitioner/Shaman
« Last post by gurudedicationananda on November 24, 2017, 03:35:52 PM »
Hi and thank you for this thoughtful post.
What I would like to know is whether or not a sitter/practitioner/shaman/guide, etc. is actually a necessity.
I have yet to experience pure vaporized 5-meo-dmt.
But I have seen people recommend sitters for even salvia divinorum which I thought from experience is totally unnecessary.
But then again, as mentioned above I have no experience with 5-meo-dmt.
Is it much stronger and more profound of an experience than even the strongest salvia experiences?
I actually have a small amount of 5-meo-dmt HCL that I have been wanting to try since I obtained it many weeks ago.
But I have not found a suitable sitter.
I actually think that having a sitter would be great just for purposes of encouragement and support.
I personally would feel more comfortable if I had a sitter with me when I tried this.
But really I have no friends and therefore no one who would sit for me.
And since I have the sacrament with me, I would much rather take it on my own time here rather than waste thousands of dollars and lots of time and energy going to see a 5-meo-dmt facilitator.
So in your opinion, should I try to find a person whom I can trust, who would be non-judgmental, and would be my guide and sitter, even if they themselves have no experience with 5-meo-dmt?
Thank you and I would appreciate your advice and/or suggestions.
Articles / Choosing a good Sitter/Practitioner/Shaman
« Last post by Migaloo on November 24, 2017, 05:19:36 AM »

There have been concerns raised recently about some methods used by certain practitioners that have inspired me to write a piece about choosing a good Sitter/Practitioner/Shaman to guide you on your Toad journey, if you decide this experience is for you.

Choosing a practitioner is a very important decision. It’s a little like choosing a partner or lover you are going to share your body with. Yet when you lay yourself at the feet of your practitioner you are sharing a lot more than your body so you need to be thorough with your research.

Dont just rely on FB posts, its best to talk to a few people who have experienced the practitioner and ask them their honest opinion. Personal Messages usually works ok. If it exists, watch a video of them doing ceremony.

An important aspect of choosing a practitioner is to not give your power away to the practitioner. Set your perimeters. If you don't want something, say it. It’s your body and soul not theirs. You usually know who you are better than they do after all. If you don't want any intervention like touch, bells, drums, chanting, rap`e, electrical devices, water in the mouth then state it in the beginning. If you don't the practitioner may think you are just resisting the process and may try to push you through it. If they say this is what I do, like it or don't come, then consider if this suits you.

Before agreeing to do ceremony with the practitioner talk or communicate with them first with any questions or concerns you may have. Ask how they conduct the ceremony and what, if any, support they can give you afterwards to assist with the integration process. They are not gods they are human, don't give your power away. They should have the time to communicate properly with you before hand. If they don't, take that into consideration and be prepared to not do the ceremony with this practitioner. If it doesn't ‘feel’ right another opportunity will cross your path.

This is the most sacred and powerful initiation you will do in your life. Its worth doing your research properly and getting it right the first time.
Preparation and Integration / "Practitioners Code of Conduct"
« Last post by Migaloo on November 24, 2017, 05:03:31 AM »
In light of some solid conversation currently occurring online on various toad threads in relation to perceived lack of duty of care by Practitioners, I came up with the following idea/proposal. To help address some issues around safe operations of practitioners I had a thought that we, the 5, Toad community could draft some agreements, a code of conduct, that we ask practitioners to agree with before a session. They want us to sign forms so let's ask them to sign an agreement, or they could just register on a page or site somewhere. Or if the Practitioner did not want to be publicly recognised you could just ask: Do you agree with the "Practitioners Code of Conduct" that could be publicised at different Toad sites. If they don't then people have a reason to question this persons practice. Feel free to add to the list and comment.
1 That they will not do anything without our consent.
2 That they will be attentive to our needs till we feel done.
3 That they only intervene when really nessecary or with prior agreement.
4 That someone is present that is qualified in first aid and CPR.
5 That they don't pour water in your mouth or use any electrical devices without your consent.
6 That adequate integration is offered or a least contacts if there is any follow up integration issues.
7 That ceremony is conducted in a private safe setting. Etc.
Introductions/Newbies / Ending the lurk...
« Last post by stabbyrobot on November 23, 2017, 01:44:47 PM »

I've been on here for a while and about to become a bit more active.

I first did 5meo under supervision of an well experienced 5meo guide in the spring. And since then its changed my life-- how cliche does that sound?

I've been fortunate enough to be able to acquire the synthetic version of the salt and have learned to freebase it and learned to use it properly and comfortable enough to act as a sitter. I've done this for a few of my closest friends.

At this point, I'm very experienced and confident in the use of 5meo and is looking forward to moving ahead with it.
Articles / Re: Things to Look For In A Facilitator
« Last post by Flux on November 23, 2017, 03:05:14 AM »
While the criteria you outlined here are most certainly important factors, I don’t think they necessarily preclude practitioners who not fit either category.
The financial motivations of any given practitioner/facilitator is an important factor to consider, one may be gaining recompense for their time and effort with medicine being their primary calling without being  greedy or exploitative.

 Secondly while formal psychotherapeutic training is unquestionably of immensely value to this work, there are many who have years of experience navigating interpersonal, transpersonal and metaphysical experiences for others without such qualifications.

We must remember the incipient nature of 5-MeO and the nascent culture that is forming will take a myriad of shapes and forms. What we should focus on are the fundamentals of providing safe space, proper screening, respect for a patients autonomy in decision making and a general ‘do no harm’ principal that provides optimum support at every stage of the journey from preparation to integration. What we are seeing now is several examples of 'the wrong' way to do it from which we need to acknowledge that there may not be one 'right way' but rather one which adheres to some fundamental principles and ethics...but that embraces the psycho-therapeutic, shamanic and psychonautic diversity in the entheogenic community.
Introductions/Newbies / Re: Gratitude in Greeting, xo
« Last post by TrustLove on November 22, 2017, 11:43:42 PM »
Deeply chuffed, thank you <3

Looking forward to exploring the hive, moreover contributing when the ~vibes~ alchemize :)

Peace.calm, B*
Introductions/Newbies / Re: My intro
« Last post by HumbleVoyager on November 22, 2017, 11:30:28 PM »
Welcome, and see you in the discussions! Feel free to start threads for areas of your interest. :)
Introductions/Newbies / Re: Seeking toad endangerment info
« Last post by HumbleVoyager on November 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »
I am glad this forum exists and i hope that safety with 5 is always emphasized before mentioning benefits, just in case some fool like me comes along, reads a little, skips the rest, and is never heard from again.

This is what it's all about :)
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