Started by Flux, January 09, 2018, 07:20:50 AM
Quote from: BancopumaI do think there is something to this kundalini stuff, and that the yogi's are on to something. I'm not claiming to have personal experience with it although I have experienced different facets of what I would consider my bioenergetic system. And it is this system as you point out that 5-MeO-DMT seems to work with, in a highly specific manner compared to other psychedelics. So I've long pondered a potential link between kundalini and 5-MeO-DMT.
Quote from: BancopumaI thought Indian yogi/mystic/writer Gopi Krishna's eloquent account of his full kundalini awakening experience sounded very familiar with respect to the 5-MeO experience: "The illumination grew brighter and brighter, the roaring louder, I experienced a rocking sensation and then felt myself slipping out of my body, entirely enveloped in a halo of light. It is impossible to describe the experience accurately. I felt the point of consciousness that was myself growing wider surrounded by waves of light. It grew wider and wider, spreading outward while the body, normally the immediate object of its perception, appeared to have receded into the distance until I became entirely unconscious of it. I was now all consciousness without any outline, without any idea of corporeal appendage, without any feeling or sensation coming from the senses, immersed in a sea of light simultaneously conscious and aware at every point, spread out, as it were, in all directions without any barrier or material obstruction. I was no longer myself, or to be more accurate, no longer as I knew myself to be, a small point of awareness confined to a body, but instead was a vast circle of consciousness in which the body was but a point, bathed in light and in a state of exultation and happiness impossible to describe." ...sounds familiar, no? The experience of light, and waves of light, the loss of contact with the physical body, the experience of boundless, bodiless consciousness, a state of exultation and bliss...there a number of interesting overlaps with a full release/breakthrough dose of 5-MeO.
Quote from: BancopumaNow one thing you tend to hear from yogi's into kundalini yoga and other forms of yoga that work with this kundalini energy is that it takes a great deal of preparation and purification, and guidance is required in order for one to awaken their kundalini safely. An analogy sometimes used is that trying to awaken kundalini before one's system is ready for it is akin to try forcing far more voltage through a bulb than it can handle...you need to tune up the electrical circuitry with practices and under guidance so you don't get any short circuits with all that excess energy going into one's system. I'm not sure to what degree this is outdated dogma, and to what degree it is true and sage advice (I've heard a few believable accounts of people suffering side effects from practicing kundalini yoga and having to cease their practice so I think there may be something to this)...it would be good to have a yogi or two chime in here. But kundalini syndrome (the side effects of a kundalini awakening gone wrong) or symptoms like them rarely seem to be reported by 5-MeO experiencers...so I'm wondering if they are different even if they overlap to a fair degree. It would be really interesting to hear from someone who practices kundalini or other forms of esoteric yoga for their perspective.
Quote from: Rising Spirit on January 16, 2018, 09:51:35 AMWhen the seeker effectively enters Savikalpa Samadhi, the inner witness merges with the nondual state and the experience dissolves, albeit temporarily, the division between the relative and the absolute vanishes, perceptually. Finite reality is revealed to be infinite reality and in such blinding effulgence... the greatest ecstasy is birthed. One so sweet, it vaporized the human ego. Interphase with the undifferentiated realm of the Unified Field is perhaps the ultimate reason for human evolution.
Quote from: JO_neness on March 26, 2018, 12:42:01 PMI got kundalini syndrome from it. 30+ times used. Didn't respect it enough. Flew too close to the sun and now I'm burnt. There's 4 distinct blockages of energy in my body that I cannot release. (2 in both feet, 2 in both knees) I've got almost no sleep for 3 months. I'm always cold. My skin has aged 10 years in three months. I'm depressed as hell. Tried everything to fix it and nothing's working. Losing hope, might just call it a day.Please oh please, when you feel after a 5-MeO experience that there is energy still hanging around, give your body time to process it. Don't go chasing after the energy.
Quote from: JO_nenessI got kundalini syndrome from it. 30+ times used.
Quote from: JO_nenessDidn't respect it enough. Flew too close to the sun and now I'm burnt. There's 4 distinct blockages of energy in my body that I cannot release. (2 in both feet, 2 in both knees) I've got almost no sleep for 3 months. I'm always cold. My skin has aged 10 years in three months. I'm depressed as hell. Tried everything to fix it and nothing's working. Losing hope, might just call it a day.
Quote from: JO_nenessPlease oh please, when you feel after a 5-MeO experience that there is energy still hanging around, give your body time to process it. Don't go chasing after the energy.
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