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General Discussion / Re: 4-HO-5-MeO-DMT & The Church of Psilomethoxin
« on: April 12, 2023, 07:59:31 AM »
New analysis and article just published:

Fungi Fiction: Analytical Investigation into the Church Of Psilomethoxin's Alleged Novel Compound Using UPLC-HRMS

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The Church of Psilomethoxin claims to produce a novel tryptamine by adding 5-MeO-DMT to the substrate of cultivated Psilocybe mushrooms, which is then biosynthesized into psilomethoxin, the church’s sacrament. In this study, we investigate the validity of this claim using comprehensive analytical techniques, namely ultra-performance liquid chromatography with high-resolution mass spectrometry (UPLC-HRMS). Authentic reference standards for structurally related tryptamines were used for comparison. Our findings revealed no evidence to suggest that the compound psilomethoxin is present in samples of material that the church is offering to their members online. Psilocybin, baeocystin, and psilocin, were, however, unambiguously identified in the sample, suggesting that the claims regarding the biosynthesis of psilomethoxin may be misguided. The implications of these findings should be critically considered within the context of public health and safety.

https://chemrxiv.org/engage/chemrxiv/article-details/64358de9736114c96352edf9

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General Discussion / Re: 4-HO-5-MeO-DMT & The Church of Psilomethoxin
« on: April 03, 2023, 11:25:52 AM »
Thank you for sharing this important report, famine.

We have sent a sample for analysis as well and will be publishing it here as soon as it becomes available.

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Welcome to the forum, and I’m sorry to hear you’ve had such a difficult experience. We have a whole section on integration support. Definitely check it out and consider posting your experience so that others can benefit from your experience.

Wishing you all the best,
HV

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General Discussion / Re: 4-HO-5-MeO-DMT & The Church of Psilomethoxin
« on: March 28, 2023, 07:53:53 AM »
Please don’t promote this church until there is GCMS evidence. We have submitted a sample of the sacrament for testing and will post an update once we have an analytical report available.

Do not trust the Church. A bunch of criminals with false promises. GCMS and other analytical techniques DO NOT DECOMPOSE 4ho5meodmt. All analysis at the moment show no 4ho5meodmt present in their shrooms. A lot of mycologists tried do this years ago and failed. Only base tryptamines were successful.


If they can send a sample that shows 4ho5meodmt in the analysis. Only then believe them.

Do you have any analyses you can post to the forum?

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Introductions/Newbies / Re: Alone
« on: March 28, 2023, 07:47:05 AM »
Welcome!

Sometimes we have to change our mediocre job as part of integration, or be part of systemic change!
For me, that has been a helpful thing to consider when it feels like there is a big separation between the god-like realms of perfection and daily life.

P.S. Post your experience/trip reports in the appropriate section:
Here for toad secretion experiences: https://forums.5meodmt.org/index.php?board=5.0
Here for synthetic experiences: https://forums.5meodmt.org/index.php?board=4.0
Here for integration discussions: https://forums.5meodmt.org/index.php?board=9.0

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Introductions/Newbies / Re: Hello from Alaska
« on: August 19, 2022, 01:49:38 PM »
Welcome!

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5-MeO-DMT Experiences and Testimonials / Re: horror trip
« on: August 19, 2022, 01:47:16 PM »
Hello Shari,

Thank you for sharing your experience here and asking for help.

I encourage you to continue posting and sharing here on these forums as much as is helpful to you, and I also want to offer you some resources that might be helpful to you in this process of recovery from a really big and difficult experience.

If it is helpful, I'd like to share that at one point with Ayahuasca I had a similar kind of horror trip that shook me so deeply to my core it took about a year to "recover". I spent much of that year contemplating my relationship with death, with other people, and with what I wanted to do with my life. For me, making art, doing yoga, hiking, talking with a therapist, talking with friends, and simply giving myself time were the most helpful ingredients in the healing process. When I look back on that experience, I would say that there are aspects of it that still scare me, but for the most part I am now grateful for being confronted with my deepest fears and for the time in "ordinary consciousness" to be with those fears while I'm alive.

I would agree with Rising Spirit that you took a very high dose of 5-MeO-DMT and what you're describing seems to be in line with very high dose experiences with psychedelics in general. One of the things that drove me to create this forum was to help prevent people from following the example of people like Martin Ball or Leo Gura who really push for the "Big Experience" and often miss the value in subtlety and in progressing slowly.

The good news is that the experience is over, and the overwhelming consensus of people who have had massive doses of 5-MeO-DMT is that with time they felt like they were able to come back to peace with the whole experience and with themselves.

Some resources that might be helpful to you:
https://firesideproject.org/ - This is a free hotline where you can talk to peer support people about your experience or the difficulties you're having after your experience.
https://psychedelic.support/ - This is a directory of licensed practitioners who are knowledgeable about psychedelics who can help support your process.
https://relationshipispsychedelic.com/ - An integration provider who has extensive experience with 5-MeO-DMT and has helped people integrate experiences similar to yours.

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Introductions/Newbies / Re: Hello and Thank You
« on: August 19, 2022, 01:30:00 PM »
Welcome!

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Introductions/Newbies / Re: Greetings
« on: August 19, 2022, 01:29:43 PM »
Welcome, we look forward to having you as part of this repository of experience and knowledge.

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Introductions/Newbies / Re: Hello
« on: August 19, 2022, 01:29:01 PM »
Welcome!

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Introductions/Newbies / Re: hi from Shari
« on: August 19, 2022, 01:28:35 PM »
Hi Shari!

Welcome. We look forward to reading about your experiences. I will look into the posts in Korean. In the future, if you see any posts that you are concerned about, you can report them to the admin by clicking the words "Report to moderator" in the right hand corner of the post.

All the best,
HV

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5-MeO-DMT Experiences and Testimonials / Re: Over usage
« on: July 25, 2022, 07:32:50 PM »
I had a friend who experienced this kind of pattern of use with 5meo.

She had to take a long break from it before doing it again because it was serving more as a distraction than a tool to help her do what she needed to do.

For some people, 5meo can be really pleasurable and a nice escape from the mundane. This could be similar to some people reporting that kind of use with DMT.

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Toad Experiences and Testimonials / Re: First experience
« on: July 25, 2022, 07:27:56 PM »
Thanks for sharing this powerful experience here with us.

Have you considered reaching out to a therapist to help with the integration process?

Even if that is not something you’d want to do, I hope you’re able to take good care of yourself and practice grounding as much as possible and take the space you need to be present with yourself.

Wishing you all the best,
HV

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Introductions/Newbies / Welcome!
« on: July 25, 2022, 06:53:13 PM »
Welcome to all new members!

We may not have the most frequent or timely responses, but this forum is alive and well.

It is a repository of information and knowledge that may be helpful in your exploration and in your experiences with 5-MeO-DMT. Please don’t be discouraged if your intro post isn’t responded to. They are all read by myself and other members, and your posts in the other sections of the forum will get responses.

Wishing you all the best and grateful that you are here with us!

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