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This is an important and historic document. Recommended reading for anyone on the path. Thanks to those who put this together. Hey Conclave how about a specific one on Choosing a practitioner or questions to ask a Practitioner before choosing.
I would just like to mention to people interested in this topic a new document called "Best Practice" has just been posted in this section. I recommend checking it out.

Is buying Toads and breeding them in captivity helpful?

Some people think that buying a Toad and keeping it in captivity and release baby toads back into the wild may help the species. I would like to express my opinion here and also start a discussion about this issue and see what are the best options to support Bufo Alvarius's sustainability/survival in this changing world.
In my opinion breeding programs are not needed yet as there are still lots of them. They are not like the black rhino with less than a hundred breeding pairs. Rather than breeding I feel is the best strategy is proper management of their environment and the predators e.g. humans. I would like to also suggest strongly that no one buys Bufo Alvarius toads from the internet, pet stores, friends or anyone, as this has the potential to contribute to poaching and the continued decimation and possible extinction of this species. It appears the toad population is more than halving every year due impart to sales and toads being taken out and away from their natural environment. Buying live toads supports poaching which often ends with the toads dying in captivity or in transit not to mention the suffering caused to the toad while in transit and due to a life of captivity. I  heard a story of thousands of toads dying in a hot truck that broke down near the mexican border.
Im curios to hear if there have been successful experiences of releasing captive bred tadpoles or small toads back into the wild or if it is a bit more complicated than that. Also people need to consider the effect of keeping an animal such as the light baring toad in captivity, under lights and away from its natural free life and what effect this may have on the medicine. Dolphinariums come to mind.  I feel they need to submerge into the earth for 10 months then come out and eat spiders and bathe under the moon and stars, not flouro lights and a glass cage 24/7. I have heard said that if it was cheaper to buy a live toad online than it was to get a poached one, why is that not reasonable? My question, Who is verifying if the toad is bred in captivity or it is a poached one? And if dolphins are breed in captivity is it therefore ok to use them for human entertainment?  I get upset when I see animals of any kind locked up in captivity for human entertainment. I would suggest to anyone who has toads in captivity and your unsure whether the toads are happy, then ask them before going on a journey if they are happy being in a glass cage or would prefer jumping around free in the desert and then see what comes in. If they say I wanna be free then there maybe a location in the wild you can take them and someone who maybe able to rehabilitate them to living and eating in the desert. If it works with Dolphins Im confident it could work with Toads.
I am aware of some Toad ranches that have been set up in Mexico, all with different running and set up models and some for motives other than conservation. Im curious to hear about a good model that works for the toad. The only way I could see a ranch being ok for the toad is if their are no walls or fences around it and the toads are free to come and go as they please.  The reason why they may choose to stay or breed there is that the ranch has duplicated as close a possible its natural environment and they like it. Possibly a free to roam ranch set up by an indigenous group on their land or by a not for profit foundation may be a structure that could work. It seems that it is very difficult to breed Bufo Alvarius in captivity due in part to the difficulties in imitating their natural habitat and climatic needs. I see some [/size]limited success with vets or at least very experience Amphibian carers that know how to access and intravenously administer breeding hormones. There are many other issues involved to breed and raise a healthy toad and then there is the question on what an artificial environment will do to the medicine. There is also the ethical question of keeping this divine creature locked up for our entertainment. All in all I would [/size]suggest that if your motive is to look after the toad and ensure their survival there are much more efficient ways to do that than an enclosed captive breeding program. So I stay with my original statement that... In my opinion breeding programs are not needed.
Ethics and Ecology / Re: "Practitioners Code of Conduct"
December 14, 2017, 04:38:45 PM
Thanks Teafaerie, loved Carrying the Light, well said. I have added a few more points the the list in my proposed Practitioners code in light of recent discussions and videos. There are a few ideas being mentioned on how to come up with the definitive Code. my guess it will organically evolve. How do we reach consensus of a code around the world on this? which method is best?

                               1 That they will not do anything without your prior consent.

2 That they will be attentive to our needs till we feel done.
3 That they only intervene when really nessecary or with prior agreement.
4 That someone is present that is qualified in first aid and CPR.
5 That they do not interfere unnecessarily, use rap`e, pour water in your mouth or use any electrical devices without your prior consent.
6 That adequate integration is offered or a least contacts if there is any follow up integration issues.
7 That ceremony is conducted in a private, safe and respectful setting.
8 That adequate supervision and assistance is given to ensure the safety of the initiate.
9 That if intervention is required due to stuck energy, safety issues or a life threatening situation, that perimeters are worked out first e.g. if I stop breathing for more than 30 seconds you can pour water in my mouth.
10 That the practitioner conducts a thorough medical and spiritual survey to determine the stability of the initiate.
Ethics and Ecology / Re: "Practitioners Code of Conduct"
December 10, 2017, 07:12:24 PM
currently having a discussion about a practitioners style on the Toad and 5 Meo DMT Testimonials site. Heres part of what I posted..... I made a suggestion on another post that I, or someone, could organise a global internet tele conference with some of the main players to discuss some main issues that could also have input from viewers. More on this to come Im sure.[/size]I have mentioned before I have had 4 sessions with this practitioner and found his facilitation both powerful and revolutionary. That said there are some processes I do not agree with and if I was to do a ceremony with with this practitioner I would state them clearly. Such as, do not put water in my mouth unless I have stopped breathing for at least 30 seconds, I don't want rap~e unless I'm really stuck and under NO circumstances are you to use your electric zapper on me. Then I would do ceremony with this practitioner in a heart beat knowing my needs were respected. Anyone can do this and I encourage people to read the piece I wrote in the file section above on "Choosing a Practitioner" and take any action required.
[/color][/size]I am glad that I have come to a stage with the medicine that I now just sit with my partner and we manage our own set, setting, style and integration. I love doing it in deep nature and shallow water, with the longer, say, one hour style, of slow integration, then a relaxing day or two out of the matrix afterwards.
[/color][/size]On the Zapper, this practitioner has made an apology to the person in the video that he wasn't warned about this option before using it on him and he will in the future alway check for consent before using any tools in his shamanic tool box. I understand people can amend the consent form to suit the initiates needs. This practitioner is a hard task master and not for everyone. In fact the Toad is an even harder task master and definitely not for everyone. There is no rush to have toad and no shame to say it's not for me and wise to do your research before hand.
[/color][/size]One positive thing to come out of all this is it appears a "Practitioners Code" is in the wind. I have put a few points down to get the ball rolling in a previous post and there will be loads more discussion and work on this Im sure.
[/color][/size]I trust that our teething issues will be resolved and we as a new community will come of age and hold this special amazing frequency in balance and reverence and inspire the change we need in this world.
[/color][/size]I bow to all those who walk this path with this medicine
and trust the gifts offered by Toad and this molecule will find their home. Aho !
I would not recommend doing Toad first time by yourself. I would suggest reading testimonials and doing lots of research on different types of ceremonies and facilitators and save up and do it with an experience practitioner. Like I said in my previous post " This is the most sacred and powerful initiation you will do in your life. Its worth doing your research properly and getting it right the first time."

There have been concerns raised recently about some methods used by certain practitioners that have inspired me to write a piece about choosing a good Sitter/Practitioner/Shaman to guide you on your Toad journey, if you decide this experience is for you.

Choosing a practitioner is a very important decision. It's a little like choosing a partner or lover you are going to share your body with. Yet when you lay yourself at the feet of your practitioner you are sharing a lot more than your body so you need to be thorough with your research.

Dont just rely on FB posts, its best to talk to a few people who have experienced the practitioner and ask them their honest opinion. Personal Messages usually works ok. If it exists, watch a video of them doing ceremony.

An important aspect of choosing a practitioner is to not give your power away to the practitioner. Set your perimeters. If you don't want something, say it. It's your body and soul not theirs. You usually know who you are better than they do after all. If you don't want any intervention like touch, bells, drums, chanting, rap`e, electrical devices, water in the mouth then state it in the beginning. If you don't the practitioner may think you are just resisting the process and may try to push you through it. If they say this is what I do, like it or don't come, then consider if this suits you.

Before agreeing to do ceremony with the practitioner talk or communicate with them first with any questions or concerns you may have. Ask how they conduct the ceremony and what, if any, support they can give you afterwards to assist with the integration process. They are not gods they are human, don't give your power away. They should have the time to communicate properly with you before hand. If they don't, take that into consideration and be prepared to not do the ceremony with this practitioner. If it doesn't 'feel' right another opportunity will cross your path.

This is the most sacred and powerful initiation you will do in your life. Its worth doing your research properly and getting it right the first time.
Ethics and Ecology / "Practitioners Code of Conduct"
November 24, 2017, 05:03:31 AM
In light of some solid conversation currently occurring online on various toad threads in relation to perceived lack of duty of care by Practitioners, I came up with the following idea/proposal. To help address some issues around safe operations of practitioners I had a thought that we, the 5, Toad community could draft some agreements, a code of conduct, that we ask practitioners to agree with before a session. They want us to sign forms so let's ask them to sign an agreement, or they could just register on a page or site somewhere. Or if the Practitioner did not want to be publicly recognised you could just ask: Do you agree with the "Practitioners Code of Conduct" that could be publicised at different Toad sites. If they don't then people have a reason to question this persons practice. Feel free to add to the list and comment.
1 That they will not do anything without our consent.
2 That they will be attentive to our needs till we feel done.
3 That they only intervene when really nessecary or with prior agreement.
4 That someone is present that is qualified in first aid and CPR.
5 That they don't pour water in your mouth or use any electrical devices without your consent.
6 That adequate integration is offered or a least contacts if there is any follow up integration issues.
7 That ceremony is conducted in a private safe setting. Etc.
Yes I am very interested to do the darkness retreat and experiment with endogenously produced 5 Meo. Mapping brainwave activity at various stages of the retreat and also comparing this with toad experience would be very interesting to see how we can experience this non duel state without smoking.
Great project. Id like to see some important issues discussed here like, fair trade toad, ranches. collecting protocols, working with mexican government, practitioner donations to toad conservation, narco traffickers, selling live toads, captive breeding protocols, alternative non toad 5 meo, Skype conferences amongst key players. Maybe admin we could see a heading called Toad Conservation Strategies and some of these and more issues can be discussed under that heading.
While the experience is still fresh Id like to share a Toad experience that happened in a dream last night. There was an old dark skinned lady giving healings to people. She nodded to me to come over. As soon as she held my hands it was like 15 seconds after toking Toad. I felt the light filling my body, sacred geometry engulfed me as that familiar let go feeling overtook me. The experience was such a real Toad feeling. I dropped right into it. I was bathed in love and light. I disappeared. Eventually like Toad I returned. I lay on my bed rejoicing in the profound deep Toad space I had just entered and came out of. Just like I had smoked the toad sacrament.

Its been around 5 months since I smoked Toad and this was quite different to the reactivations that often happen in the days proceeding the session. It felt somehow more gentle yet still very much toad. Similar experiences have happened before, coming out of a dream. 6 months after Terrance Mc Kenna died he came to me in a dream and gave me a smoke of DMT that was just as "real" as my previous strongest DMT journey. So..... yes our subconscious can create that unified state from within without smoking Toad. Am I releasing 5 Meo DMT while dreaming or is the brain pathways already open that can open when my relaxed being wants to?
Hi, Just like to say I'm really happy this site has been developed. I am the founder and admin for Toad and 5 Meo DMT Testimonials FB site where we often struggled with the FB format. Some good info sometimes got buried in the mass of posts, so Im glad those with the skills and energy have got this together. I want to support this new 5 Hive site and encourage the 3400 members from the other site to join and contribute and transfer their relevant material to this site. It has a lot of valuable info there in non transferable thread forms and in the files section that can help people decide if toad is for them and also how to integrate and work with the experience. Some of this info I'm sure will migrate across. I can't  transfer all this info or Testimonials as it has to be done on a individual level for privacy and copyright issues. I see the merits of the secure and easy access able format and I don't see the FB site being in competition with this site as it could be an easy step for people to find this site. There are many toad sites on the net now that form a function. I suggest a moderator contacts these various groups and you share your link and vision.

A little bit of personal info> I am a Filmmaker and a Skipper. I made probably the first doco on Ayahuasca in the 90s called "Shamans of the Amazon" and am in production of another doco called "The Toad the Whale and the Sun" I co-own a 45 ft yacht called Migaloo 2 that I use as a platform to raise awareness on marine conservation issues. I usually spend around 3 months every year sailing and hanging out with the humpback whales that migrate up the East coast of OZ. Last year I spent 6 weeks in Mexico working with Toad medicine and exploring ways to help preserve the Toad. If interested, people can see my last doco, read the synopsis of my new one and read my 20 testimonials from mexico at

I look forward to some robust discussions and sharing here, especially around processes to preserve the Toad and ways its sacrament can be used to progress evolution on this beautiful planet. Ribbit.

Migaloo, the white humpback whale, means white fella in the local original language
King Toad.. April 2015
Recently I smoked two pipes of 5-MEO DMT, or Toad Medicine as its called. Words cannot come close to describing this experience yet I feeI I should write something down anyway. I was first introduced to DMT when mixed with the vine Ayahuasca during a ceremony in the Ecuadorian Amazon in 1992 and have drunk this sacred brew many times over the last 23 years. I smoked DMT from the Acacia tree in Australia around 16 years ago and as well as being a real paradigm shifter and mind blowing experience it also scared the shit out of me. So when someone long ago explained DMT as a walk in the park compared to 5-MEO DMT I was quite deservedly apprehensive.

The sun beamed down strongly in the early morning. There was no roadmap where we were going, nothing to prepare me, no warning of what to expect. I set my intention to release any blockages that may be preventing me from communicating clearly with the animal, plant and spirit world. I was told to stand tall and strong and allow the energy to flow into your crown through your body and into the Earth. I knew I had to completely surrender to where the medicine would take me.

I was first in line to crack the portals open. I was instructed to stand straight, positioned my legs well apart, hold my arms up high, face and gaze into the sun and breath deeply. I was handed a glass pipe containing some clear dried toad excretion. A hot flame turned the substance into a crackling smoke that I was instructed to slowly inhale and hold. As I exhaled this mystical smoke everything began pixilating and a haze descended and engulfed me. An ancient non-worldly feeling over took my senses. The sense of I, my conscious mind, and my associated senses left me.

I was gently laid down on the earth while my guide chanted, shook his rattle, activated ancient memories and work on releasing energy blocks within my body. I had known that my guide liked to encourage people to stand up with eyes open when possible to stay present with the medicine. So when my guide felt it was time he tipped some water over my face called to me to breath and lifted me to my feet. I, who ever I was, was sooooooo far away when I was called to be present that I cannot describe where I was. I just knew I was being called to be totally present and hold this energy that was now pumping through me like a multi-colored two-meter wide lightning bolt shooting from the heavens though my crown and hands into the earth. I felt I had to hold this energy and not collapse as much of my programming wanted me to let go of my physical body. I was now being asked to bridge the worlds. I felt I was holding this energy and allow it to flow into the collective consciousness of humanity, to play a role in humanities evolution. As a write this it sounds egotistical or fanciful yet there was no ego in that space, there was no room for ego. No room for anything except what was happening. There was nothing but deep surrender to be fully present with the indescribably intense energy flowing through me. All the time my guide was working with me, chanting, tapping my body, releasing blockages, sometimes helping me stay upright in all this perfect chaos. I remember screaming and spitting growling and purging. Just as this energy seemed to be easing and I thought I could now relax a bit, my guide saw something in me and rubbed his hands and said another pipe. I was in complete surrender by this stage.

This time I didn’t collapse and I kept my eyes open, even though I don’t remember seeing anything that was cognizable. I felt my guides strong energy holding me physically and spiritually. My legs wanted to buckle and I could hear my guide saying breath, breath and he continued chanting hard. I dissolved into the chant, time disappeared and I could feel the chants vibrating and echoing through my DNA. Past life memories came flooding back of doing the toad medicine on sacred stone temples pre Hispanic near the region of the toad in Central America with my guide and his female assistant. I’ve done this before, exploded into my reality. Yet this was bigger than the three of us now as it was then. These feelings actually went beyond memories; it was more like a returning to something ancient and terribly familiar. A ritual performed at key times in humanities evolution, an activation. I felt we were holding a portal open for cosmic energy or coded information in the form of invisible light, to flow through us now as in the past.

On reflection this energy looked like one of those glass balls that you touch the outside with your finger and it arcs to the center glowing ball. Well we were on the glowing ball that was the earth and the lightning bolts were coming from the universe and King Toad created the polarity that allowed the electricity to flow. I was being asked or told to be the conduit.

Moments of awareness would return intermittently as I traversed this shamanic reality to see recognizable things like the grass I stood on which had become triangular mandalas with a silver sheen. The powerful and loud ancient chants pieced through the dimensions and felt very familiar. It felt that these magic compounds have been distributed in nature to aid humanity to stay connected to the life force that streams through the universe. Throughout the ages some people and shamans are guided how to use these substances that have been carefully hidden in toad glands, mushrooms, flowers, bark of trees and leaves of plants to be used at times when some of humanity has lost its way and threatens the earths delicate balance of life. These powerful ceremonies activate our DNA to allow our true human and galactic potential to shine which in turn can create massive paradigm shifts, new outcomes and relationships between species and can allow humans to strive for harmony and balance on earth.

The veils started to lift, the haze dissipated and awareness of my physical body slowly returned. Unsure if my eyes had been open or shut I could now recognize images, people and my surroundings. I felt like Id just run a marathon or done 15 rounds in the ring with Mohammed Ali and won. I looked in my guides eyes checking that yes we have landed and I was still alive in the physical. I felt nothing would ever be the same after this. my guide nodded as if he knew where Id been and what Id felt. I gazed around and saw future initiates smiling in my direction. my guide called everyone in for a group hug. I was flabbergasted. Unable to talk even if I wanted to, I staggered to the nearby rainforest where I collapsed into the leaf mulch in complete exhaustion and awe. As I lay motionless on the rainforest floor connecting to the energy of the trees and the myriad of life forms around me it felt like my old mind, thought patterns and body had been obliterated into billions of atoms, I could feel my being slowly reconfiguring the atoms in a new way to create a new me or at least a new way of relating, seeing and feeling. My mind unable to grasp the extent of this transformational experience I simply breathed and floated on the depth of the journey.

Every night for over a week after this ceremony, at around 2 to 3 am while in deep sleep, King Toad reality would return for a timeless moment. For me these moments were gold yet I have heard from other toaders that it hasn’t all been fun. I jumped on the net researching all I could about this medicine and found, unlike Ayahuasca, Toad Medicine is largely unused and little understood. Traditional use of the Toad Medicine was squashed when the Spanish invaded these areas 500 years ago. my guide worked with the local elders who still sang the chants around the toad’s area to bring the ceremonies back to life.
Over the preceding week I discovered that certain activities and even your will could trigger the return of the Toad reality and when it happened during sleep I learnt to ride it like surfing a wave. One moonlight night on the beach and with the aid of another sacred herb I fully toaded standing in front of a bandannas palm. Bandannas are said to have DMT in their seed so maybe that also was a trigger. I totally surrendered to the journey again. In a no mind state I started tapping my body as my guide did and could feel a less intense white light energy pulsing through my body. A voice said, start chanting, my mind stepped in and said I don’t know any chants, and then I let go further. A chant appeared from the depths that sounded and felt similar to the energy of the chants my guide chanted. I allowed these chants to emerge as I released deeper into Toad world.

My intention at the beginning of the Toad Ceremony was to release any blockages that may be preventing me from communicating clearly with the animal, plant and spirit world. Standing in front of the bandanas palm the toad reality allowed me to feel this free flow of communication between the palm and me. I felt a real feeling of connectedness, of oneness, of no separation. I felt tree consciousness. I felt the DMT in the tree as I felt the DMT in me. We were really one.

I felt that whales are constant conduits to this cosmic energy I had experienced on Toad Medicine and felt they live in a totally connected space with all life throughout time. I gave thanks to the group consciousness of the whales and celebrated a new connection.

It will not surprise me when more people activate their human potential and become telepathic, powerful healers, intuitive, aware beings that are part of the change that is required to restore balance on Earth. Keep hopping Toad.

..I feel I should write a post script to this testimonial. Last night around 27 hours after finishing writing this testimonial something happened I feel I should share to all those interested in this medicine. I didn't and don't want to say that this ritual is for everyone, it's not. For me, I believe this is extremely deep shamanic work, it is for the Warriors of deep space and only for those who feel REALLY called and only then after doing lots of research and contemplation. I'm not speaking on behalf of addicts who may see this medicine as their last chance to break their addiction and maybe save their life. I feel there needs to be support groups set up in the areas where toad has been to support people in processing the experience and the aftermath. Similar has been said about ayahuasca circles and that it can crack your auric field open and allow entities or dark energies in. Well last night at about 4am I had a visit from a dark energy that was obvious to me was more than a nightmare. Without going into details about the experience what was interesting was towards the end of this intense experience three frogs appeared. At first I though they where part of this dark energy that was chasing me and I tried to shake them away yet they persisted and showed me an old style phone. Then I got it. Like Neo looking for a way out of the matrix the frogs or toad energy was showing me tools to navigate in deep space and a way out or away from this energy. I picked up the phone heard a dial tone and instantly I was back in my room where I woke up my partner and told her what had happened. We proceeded to send good old love and light to this energy, ask our guides and ancestors for protection and visualised a bubble of light around us. I don't believe this energy had any power over me or that I was in any real danger. Yet I did have a thought for someone who was on their own without much experience in these realities. I feel its important to set up Local support groups and local follow up sharings a week or two after could also be a good idea to hear of others experiences and to gain maximum benefit from the ceremony. This is an incredible time we are in with access to these amazing teachers. Deep respect and reverence needs to be heeded for the true gifts on offer to be revealed.  I feel we all need to take some responsibility for what is being shared.

April 30, 2015