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Social Hour => Introductions/Newbies => Topic started by: toad friend on January 21, 2019, 08:10:57 PM

Title: 5meo dmt freebase into 5meo dmt HCL
Post by: toad friend on January 21, 2019, 08:10:57 PM
hello everyoneI have a simple question.what is a good method to convert 5meodmt freebase into 5meodmt HCL?I noticed a lot of people doing it the other way around.
your help is greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: 5meo dmt freebase into 5meo dmt HCL
Post by: RoundAbout on January 24, 2019, 11:36:25 AM
Edit: You posted this on two forums at the same time. Link is here, with responses: https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=84011 (https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=84011)
Title: Re: 5meo dmt freebase into 5meo dmt HCL
Post by: HumbleVoyager on January 24, 2019, 08:36:05 PM
Thanks RoundAbout!

Yeah, to turn a freebase into any salt form, you just add the acid you want it to be the salt of.
For example, for the acetate salt, add acetic acid (vinegar). For the citrate salt, add citric acid (vitamin C). For the HCl salt, add hydrochloric acid.
Title: Re: 5meo dmt freebase into 5meo dmt HCL
Post by: RoundAbout on January 24, 2019, 10:03:57 PM
Thanks RoundAbout!

Yeah, to turn a freebase into any salt form, you just add the acid you want it to be the salt of.
For example, for the acetate salt, add acetic acid (vinegar). For the citrate salt, add citric acid (vitamin C). For the HCl salt, add hydrochloric acid.
Vitamin C is ascorbic acid, citric acid is different. Sorry for nit-picking  :P

Yes, but it seems the trick people are suggesting is adding a small volume of concentrated acid into alcohol that contains the freebase... ultimately obtaining the crystalline alkaloid salt. I think some of those acids (e.g. citric) would crystallize if complete evaporation was used rather than precipitating the DMT salt from a low solubility solvent. (HCl and acetic acids should evaporate though I think.) I wonder how much of the alkaloid is retained in the alcohol though... I haven't read much about the solubility of DMT salts in various solvents other than for the fumarate (for FASA), let alone 5-MeO-DMT.
Title: Re: 5meo dmt freebase into 5meo dmt HCL
Post by: HumbleVoyager on January 27, 2019, 08:49:52 PM
Thanks for the correction!