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Mike Tyson Experiences 5-MeO-DMT with Dr. Gerry

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RoundAbout:
Mike Tyson started a podcast titled: Hotboxin' with Mike. In one of the first few episodes he features Dr. Gerry, uses toad venom off camera, then comes back and reflects positively on the experience. Apparently he used it a couple months ago, and uploaded the podcast Jan 15, 2019.

He came on the Joe Rogan Experience, the only vocal proponent 5-MeO-DMT and DMT user in popular culture I can think of, on Jan 17, 2019. They discuss DMT, bring up Kanye using DMT, and encourage use in general.

I have a feeling there is going to be an increase in interest due these sorts of well-timed media appearances. The popular author Michael Pollan wrote about his experiences with it recently too... went on Joe Rogan to discuss it also. 5-MeO and DMT in general may be be starting to gain general recognition.

Here is a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn7Shm-ulJc

physics envy:
I'm curious to hear more specifically about 'the presentation' that you do not like.


"Seems to be a savvy, well timed attempt to gain attention"



Do you mean by Tyson specifically?  If so, I agree that may have been intentional by whomever is really behind the Hotboxin' podcast. 


But I didn't get that feeling from his interview on Rogan.  My take was that he was on Rogan to promote his new cannabis venture, and the psychedelic discussions were just something that Tyson is currently very excited about due to his recent Toad experiences.  He brought it up several times, even when Joe turned to other topics.  Tyson was genuinely blown away by 5 and just wanted to talk about it in general.  He obviously is not very eloquent with words, and was horrible at promoting his cannabis venture which he also seems pretty excited about.  So I could be wrong, but I didn't get that Tyson himself was using 5 (or DMT) as an intentional way to gain extra exposure (on Rogan's show anyhow). 


But whether it was intentional or not, Tyson may be able to help expose psychedelics in general and 5 specifically to some people that wouldn't otherwise hear about them...and I think that's a good thing :-)

HumbleVoyager:
It is a bit concerning seeing the rising popularity of a substance that has so little known about it. There is still so much to be understood about how if affects different people and 5 is especially powerful and shouldn’t be an experience that is taken lightly without proper support.

RoundAbout:
Taking the time to type this out is a complete over-investment in this topic. I watched a couple YouTube videos in the background and felt compelled to write a forum post for some reason; probably not a good reason. I don't like drug use in pop culture and excessively self-interested people. That's pretty much it.


--- Quote from: physics envy on January 18, 2019, 02:20:33 PM ---I'm curious to hear more specifically about 'the presentation' that you do not like.
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OK. If this was a private conversation, I think it was a great discussion. But these are profitable/valuable entertainment programs with their popularity somewhat connected to people looking up to and respecting the hosts. Tyson is also hosting a doctor whose business is based on this drug. They should be held to a higher standard. In my opinion:

I don't appreciate calling 5-MeO-DMT use courageous and ballsy, especially in a conversation with someone as idolized as Mike Tyson.

I don't think it's appropriate for someone (i.e. Dr. Gerry) who is in the business of facilitating toad ceremonies to suggest that there are other facilitators who are like 'vampires' that cause trauma to people and give them PTSD until he heals them. Despite this he says that he hasn't met a person who hasn't benefited from it. He also recommends facilitators have at least 10 years experience with a degree in the medical field... this is a thinly veiled way of saying: A facilitator is required, and the requirements for this role make me one of the only people qualified for this role, and if you give your business to other people you're taking a risk of developing psychological disorders or dying. Fortunately he now has the right amount of experience... go figure huh.


--- Quote from: physics envy on January 18, 2019, 02:20:33 PM ---"Seems to be a savvy, well timed attempt to gain attention"

Do you mean by Tyson specifically?  If so, I agree that may have been intentional by whomever is really behind the Hotboxin' podcast.
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Tyson stated in his own podcast that he wasn't intending to use it, and it seemed genuine. He also reflected on his history of drug use, and how him impulsively using 5-MeO-DMT seemed to fit into that. Episode #1 of the podcast was with Dr. Gerry. I think someone put two and two together and thought that Mike would likely use it and appreciate it, and the whole experience would generate interest in the podcast. I agree that Tyson probably brought it up in good faith on the Joe Rogan podcast.

HumbleVoyager:

--- Quote from: RoundAbout on January 23, 2019, 04:20:05 PM ---Taking the time to type this out is a complete over-investment in this topic. I watched a couple YouTube videos in the background and felt compelled to write a forum post for some reason; probably not a good reason. I don't like drug use in pop culture and excessively self-interested people. That's pretty much it.

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This sums it up really well.

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